Comments on: The Birth of the Illuminati… http://www.ciphermysteries.com/2010/02/09/the-birth-of-the-illuminati The latest news, views, research and reviews on uncracked historical ciphers... Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:49:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Dennis http://www.ciphermysteries.com/2010/02/09/the-birth-of-the-illuminati/comment-page-1#comment-15753 Dennis Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:22:18 +0000 http://www.ciphermysteries.com/?p=2698#comment-15753 Hm. These three were the Matthew Golovinsky, Peter Rachkovsky, and Sergei Nilus of their era. They were original, though. If they had chosen a more obvious target, you would have had the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" before its time. I can well believe that Nilus might have been on drugs. Seriously, it's a good thing they didn't choose the Jews as their target. I shudder to think what might have happened, since what really did happen is something I certainly couldn't make up. Hm. These three were the Matthew Golovinsky, Peter Rachkovsky, and Sergei Nilus of their era. They were original, though. If they had chosen a more obvious target, you would have had the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” before its time. I can well believe that Nilus might have been on drugs.

Seriously, it’s a good thing they didn’t choose the Jews as their target. I shudder to think what might have happened, since what really did happen is something I certainly couldn’t make up.

]]> By: nickpelling http://www.ciphermysteries.com/2010/02/09/the-birth-of-the-illuminati/comment-page-1#comment-15706 nickpelling Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:34:02 +0000 http://www.ciphermysteries.com/?p=2698#comment-15706 <strong>Robin:</strong> I suspect that in <em>Foucault's Pendulum</em>, Eco set out to satirize historical conspiracy airport novels (as seen through the lofty windows of his high-culture tower) rather than to reinvent them - I'm pretty sure he entwines his three main characters simply as a plot construction conceit rather than any conscious echo of the Weishaupt / Robison / Barruel trinity. Curiously, though, the Illuminati story does suggest a third type of 'co'-prefixed historical explanation: cockup, conspiracy, cocaine. :-) Robin: I suspect that in Foucault’s Pendulum, Eco set out to satirize historical conspiracy airport novels (as seen through the lofty windows of his high-culture tower) rather than to reinvent them – I’m pretty sure he entwines his three main characters simply as a plot construction conceit rather than any conscious echo of the Weishaupt / Robison / Barruel trinity.

Curiously, though, the Illuminati story does suggest a third type of ‘co’-prefixed historical explanation: cockup, conspiracy, cocaine. :-)

]]> By: Robin http://www.ciphermysteries.com/2010/02/09/the-birth-of-the-illuminati/comment-page-1#comment-15705 Robin Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:09:20 +0000 http://www.ciphermysteries.com/?p=2698#comment-15705 Hi Nick, I think that, in part, the theme of Foucault's Pendulum is pretty much what you're saying here: "...political, pharmacological and religious delusions somehow overlapped and intertwined, and in doing so took on a composite mad life...". Eco is, because of this, regarded as the thinking mans Brown. It's definitely a hoot to think that drug-inspired fantasies have the traction to just keep on rolling down the decades ! Cheers, Robin Hi Nick,

I think that, in part, the theme of Foucault’s Pendulum is pretty much what you’re saying here: “…political, pharmacological and religious delusions somehow overlapped and intertwined, and in doing so took on a composite mad life…”. Eco is, because of this, regarded as the thinking mans Brown.

It’s definitely a hoot to think that drug-inspired fantasies have the traction to just keep on rolling down the decades !

Cheers,
Robin

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