Comments on: Richard Rogers’ Voynich theory…

By: Intech

Intech — Fri, 09 Sep 2011 10:34:43 +0000

Ah – I see the link does not work – please try this one

http://www.preteristarchive.com/Books/1500_slavonic.html

The text on the right needs to be magnified and you will see a lot of words from the Voynich texts.

By: Intech

Intech — Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:48:04 +0000

Ah my reference to Witelo was to using the optics to study plants and the stars, because the illustrations appear to show dissection of plants and stars within their constellations. And to have the use and knowledge of these instruments, this person must have been wealthy and/or intellectual.
According to various web sites, a lot of books by Witelo were lost and only a few were found. I have not been able to establish viewing of these on any web sites, but may be worth trying at some point to see if there are any similarities.
My thought was that the VM is a copy of one of Witelo notes/manuscripts, made by a student or of someone who thought that the information was worth preserving (a lot of wars going on at that time ) which is why the VM appears to be in note form and no authors name on the book. I also think that the person who copied this, may not have understood the language and trying to copy from rough notes in someone elses handwriting from a different country would be extremely difficult. I looked at the 15th century Russian text from this web site Preteristarchive.com/books/1500_Slavonic.html
when I magnified the text, I discovered a large number of letters that appear in the VM such as the figure 8. I still think that the VM was written with care and flamboyance and that the letters have been decorated with loops such as the T’s.
But I will leave it to the experts as these are just my ideas.

By: nickpelling

nickpelling — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:45:24 +0000

intech: having also worked and published on the history of optics, I have to say that Witelo (1230 to before 1318) is an intriguing suspect, if somewhat early. However, I’d also add that, contrary to Voynich researcher Rich SantaColoma’s claims of apparent telescopes or microscopes in the Voynich’s ‘pharma’ section, I personally don’t see any diagrams or drawings that even remotely relate to a 13th century reinterpretation of Alhazen’s optics anywhere there – glassware, yes but optics, no.

By: intech

intech — Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:02:38 +0000

The texts look like a mix of 15th century Russian and 15th century Lithuania. On this strength I researched the Baltic languages and saw the figure 8 in various 15th century Russian texts and what looks like the 4 in 15th century Lithuanian texts. I think the 4 is a + but laziness shows a link, same for the two TT ignore the loops. This could be the works of Polish man Witelo even though he lived pre 15th century he worked at the Padua University the moved to Italy. he was an expert in Optics and believed that there are intellectual and corporeal bodies, connected by causality. A lot of the works by Witelo was never recovered and I think that a student of Witelo re-wrote in a mixed and broken language and re-illustrated his works .. hence no author name. its just a theory but please check out Witelo on the web very interesting and the book ties in with his theories.

By: Richard A. Rogers

Richard A. Rogers — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 16:48:40 +0000

I almost forgot:

Mwaaaa ha ha ha [noise of bank hinges]

By: Richard A. Rogers

Richard A. Rogers — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 16:39:19 +0000

Follow-up comment:

I forgot to mention the hieroglyphs — as Egyptian-styled script but not the glyphs – like little pictures — really easy for the lucky hinged folks among us.

I’ll even go as far as mentioning that the VMS is an early 12th Century Knights Templar Journal, Grimoire and Map Book written in Jerusalem at a place called Jacob’s Ford — the site of a crusader castle.

Further, if you can manage the Voynich Manuscript, you may want to take a look at the various Templar Graffitti left behind in caves and prisons. And also look at the Devil’s Bible (Codex Gigas), the Shroud of Turin, and many other period documents.

Finally, once you have master VMS you may want to take a crack at the Dorabella Cipher; Edward Elgar uses a method very close to the Templar method – close enough that you would immediately recognize it as such. I’m forwarding the solution to his museum next week.

By: Richard A. Rogers

Richard A. Rogers — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 16:13:20 +0000

Mark Fincher stated, “… does the VMs just attract people with unhinged minds or is it responsible for creating a few?” And he is here because of what again? Geez.

Stay tuned; the fun stuff starts shortly. For those that are headache prone, I have made significant progress since my initial press release. In brief, I can teach anyone to read this manuscript in English (albeit old and middle-english) using just one sentence! By the way, it seems nobody, anywhere, has picked up on the fact that all — all — the Voynich Manuscript images hosted off of Yale’s website are bogus: doctored, digitally modified, no good, etc. The manuscript is real — the images with the additions are useless. Down the .SID version and get the plug-in for internet explorer from Lizard Tech; Go to maximum zoom to where the pores of the vellum are showing and look around. For example, look at the brown “lines” used to border plant images. Also, on the last page, where there appears to be a tear in the page — zoom into the middle of that “tear” — now I may be mistaken, but unless our 12th Century authors had access to ultra-high fidelty watermarking and extreme microprinting techniques, the digitals are useless. The dating is also off; the materials may date to 15th~16th century but the context solidly dates the work to early 12th century.

Finally, from the dark recesses of my unhinged mind, you might want to note the reason that no one could break the encryption all these centuries is simple: its not encrypted; its not even a script — but it’s written in english!

I’m halfway through the text and the maps and should complete the remainder within a year. Stay tuned.

By: Erich Mestriner

Erich Mestriner — Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:19:03 +0000

When i watch the symbols in the above diagram they remind me at The symbols used in “The chinese wall game”

Also known as “MahJongg”

By: Jan

Jan — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:46:44 +0000

NOw for the acid test – until we see some decoded test,
there is no point to follow such ather compicated procedure.

By: Marke Fincher

Marke Fincher — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:57:59 +0000

I feel like I must have stepped through the looking glass without realizing it. Must have been something in that last chocolate muffin.

The question now is: does the VMs just attract people with unhinged minds or is it responsible for creating a few?

However, he is perilessly close to the truth in one important respect which he has just misinterpretted. But I cant publish details of that yet of course. Mwaaaa ha ha ha [noise of mental hinges]

Marke