New Beale Papers Theory…

Posted by nickpelling on Jan 23rd, 2009

Word arrives at Mysteries Mansion from “Fred Jones / Will Smith” about his/her shiny new Beale Papers theory: “Yes the codes are broken! I am giving them out free for all to see at http://www.bealetreasurecodes.com 

As everyone knows, Part 2 was decoded in the original 1885 pamphlet (though the precise details of how the decoder silently worked past where the encoder misnumbered the words in the Declaration of Independence text have caused a fair few modern cryptologists to suspect the whole thing might be some kind of hoax): but what of Parts 1 and 3? You know, the bits that say where the treasure is hidden. icon smile New Beale Papers Theory...

If you hack through all the foliage (Jefferson? Templars? What?), Jones/Smith’s claim is that if you apply a modified part of the plaintext of Part 2 to the first few lines of Part 1 (so that “71, 194, 38, 1701, 89, 76, 11, …” maps to “INTHECOUNTYOFBEDFORDABOUTFOURMILESAQUADRANTAWAYFROMBUFORD” you get some kind of cunning mix of French and English fragments in the remainder, which (once he’s filled in the gaps) he claims reads as follows:-

In the county of bedford about four miles a quadrant away from buford then here by ahan need ban o tug de a tac foam ruth ci in en but heath narrow mount tut by aire aid t blockade utterly the lentuer stagnation defunt having hag note aerial sa middle ninth bar …

Ohhhhkayyyy… it’s at this point I throw my hands up in the air and simply point out that this looks not entirely dissimilar to Levitov’s VMs descryption (and, though GC will disagree, to Leonell Strong’s claimed VMs decryption too) – a kind of polyglot mishmash of language-like fragments, not unlike hurling a bowl’s worth of Alphabetti Spaghetti at a wall and trying to piece together the resultant letter gloop into sentence-like things. Oh well…

Smith/Jones has put up two (quite big) pages already with more planned over the next few days/weeks: perhaps he/she will have plenty of surprises for us for Part 3. We shall see!

12 Responses

  1. Rene Zandbergen Says:

    Very Strong indeed…

    I can imagine that someone runs a decryption attempt, and comes up with:
    “here by ahan need ban o tug de a tac foam ruth ci in en but heath narrow mount
    tut by aire aid t blockade utterly “.

    I just cannot imagine that someone actually writes:
    “here by ahan need ban o tug de a tac foam ruth ci in en but heath narrow mount
    tut by aire aid t blockade utterly” and then encrypts it.

  2. Gary Says:

    Rene [Nick?] I read the site about here by ahan. Question Why did you tell the people what those words really mean. They tell a story dont they. why don’t you give a solution! Instead of putting something down which you don’t know nothing about. Are you one of those webs which have nothing to say but selling a book with nothing in it??

  3. Stan Clayton Says:

    Interestingy IN THE COUNTY OF BEDFORD JOINTLY can be decoded by one of my six keys,
    83=11
    1629=18+11+5=34=H
    48 =12+18+5=35=I
    94 =13+12+5=30=D
    63 ` = 9+13+5=27=A
    132 = 6+ 9+5=20=T
    16 = 7+ 6+5=18=R
    111 = 3+ 7+5=15=O
    95 =14+ 3+5=22=V
    84 =12+ 14+5=31=E
    Ive used this simple decode as example i have longer decodes, Ive put other keys on other sites but no responses if any interest i put more on this site,i have a name 16 letters apartand plot letters but no cemetry name,what can i do with it.

  4. nickpelling Says:

    Hi Stanley,

    Not sure how your “six keys” work, feel free to post a link or a comment here describing what you’re doing, there are always plenty of people looking for the Beale treasure. :-)

    Cheers, ….Nick Pelling….

  5. Stan Clayton Says:

    Thank you,I have six different keys that unlock sensible seintences,surely its not too hard to add the code number digits together
    1629=1+6+2+9=18
    then add the sum of the previous code number
    83=11+18=29then+5=34
    which in the alphabet=H
    ive posted decodes on other sites over time you are only one to reply,i now realise my decodes are too complicated even singh didnt reply what would you do if you had the name of a grave and the plot initials ive only found one relative in 1822 in a grave search in Rose cemetryVA,if you still cant understand my keys which show the keys to decypher are in the preceeding numbers i dont know where the number five comes from but its common to this bit
    here is an easier one to work on
    71-7+1=8+7=15=O
    194=14 +7=21=U
    38=11 +7=18=R
    1701=9 +7=16=P
    89=17 +7=24=X
    76=13 +7=20=T
    11=2 +7= 9=I
    83=11 +7=18=R
    1629=18 +7=25=Y
    48=12 +7=19=S
    94=13 +7=20=T
    OUR PIT TRYST, I dont know where the seven comes from it could be the first digit of the code, Thanks again stan

  6. Stan Clayton Says:

    Im puzzled ive given the key to decode parts of the Beale treasure location code and no one can understand it,all six keys ive got are based on the number before the one you are decoding,there is no numbered book, Ive decoded enough of the code to know i am on the right track,besides this is the only shown leads on any web site, i dont know why im bothering even if i get the whole message what can i do with it,and what is a TWO TON KIT TEAM,
    surely some one is trying to work out how ive managed to decode so much when no one else had any idea in nearly two hundred years,

  7. nickpelling Says:

    The problem with all decoding attempts that claim to be able to decode fragments is working out whether each individual claim is statistically significant or not.

    I am looking at your claim, but I just need a little more time…

  8. Stan Clayton Says:

    coming across these old messages i realise i never said the added number
    related to numbering the alphabet A can be 1, 27, 53, and so on,after getting only one reply ive given up working on the codes especialy now they have been proved to be a hoax.although why did alan Poe give a grave name and location,

  9. Stephen M. Matyas, Jr. Says:

    Are you interested in updating your website based on new evidence and arguments that rebut the popular arguments against the Beale Treasure Story?

    If so, have a look at the page “Arguments and Counterarguments” found on my website http://www.BealeTreasureStory.com

    Regards,
    Stephen

  10. stanley clayton Says:

    LOOING BACK ON MY
    MESSAGES I WONDER WHY NO ONE HAS CARRIED ON DECODING ANY MORE OF THE TREASURE LOCATION CODES, IM CONVINCED E A POE WROTE THEM ON THE EVIDENCE HE USED THE SAME IDEA IN ONE OF HIS STORIES, HE ENCODED A CODE USING SIX DIFFERENT KEYS AND EACH KEY WAS PROGRESSIVLY HARDER TO CRACK,IVE GOT THE NAME OF A GRAVE BUT IT WAS THE HARDEST KEY TO FIND,

  11. stanley clayton Says:

    SURPRISE SURPRISE Ive written a book explaining five of my code keys,in the fact that no one else has ever published anything exept the gillogy strings ive decided to let others get the credit, my solutions cant be put down to coincidence,buy the book Starship Stowaway when it comes out and be the first to find out the complete solution,the sixth key clues to the plot letters and name are in the book Stan Clayton

  12. stanley clayton Says:

    funnily enough IN THE COUNTY OF BEDFORD JOINTLY OWNED decodes using some of my keys. 208=10
    195=15+10=25+10=35=I
    145=10=15=25+15=40=N
    1=1+10=11+9=20=T 94=133+1=14+20=34=H
    73=10+13=23+34=57=E
    416=11+10=21+34+55=C
    918=18=11+ 29+5584+9

    356=14
    117= 9+14=23+9=32=F
    136=10+ 9=19+9=28=B
    219=12+10=22+9=31=E
    27= 9+ 12=21+9=30=D
    176=14+ 9 =23+9=32=F
    YOU CAN SORT THE REST OUT IVE GIVEN YOU THE IDEA DOUBLING OR ADDING THE PREVIOUS CODE NUMBER WILL GIVE LOTS MORE DECODES,OR READ MY BOOK,
    STAN CLAYTON
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