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	<title>Comments on: Become A Voynich Manuscript Expert In Just 5 Minutes&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I can explain the hatching - and the use of cylindrical containers pre- 1450.

But I don&#039;t know (blush) how to put a paper up on the web.

I needs to use pictures to think good..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I can explain the hatching &#8211; and the use of cylindrical containers pre- 1450.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t know (blush) how to put a paper up on the web.</p>
<p>I needs to use pictures to think good..</p>
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		<title>By: nickpelling</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickpelling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fixed, sorry to have offended your sensibilities - serves me right for typing so fastical. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fixed, sorry to have offended your sensibilities &#8211; serves me right for typing so fastical. <img src='http://www.ciphermysteries.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Clayton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Ironical&#039;????!!! I *%&amp;^ing hate that mistake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Ironical&#8217;????!!! I *%&amp;^ing hate that mistake</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Pelling</title>
		<link>http://www.ciphermysteries.com/2008/07/20/become-a-voynich-manuscript-expert-in-just-5-minutes/comment-page-1#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Pelling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, an abundance of sincerely-held theories can be a hindrance, in that their proponents will actively construct elaborate arguments to explain away any awkward facts that happen to contradict those theories.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And so each fact is shadowed by an &quot;anti-fact&quot; explaining it away: sometimes it seems that each fact gets beaten up until it produces the opposite reading.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In fact, I would point out that this is probably why even the most basic dating facts about the VMs (&lt;i&gt;such as its mostly-15th century quire numbers&lt;/i&gt;) have ended up being sidelined, marginalised by a strangely reactionary body of experts.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So, are the &lt;b&gt;facts&lt;/b&gt; to blame for stagnation in VMs research? Or might the experts perhaps have something to do with it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, an abundance of sincerely-held theories can be a hindrance, in that their proponents will actively construct elaborate arguments to explain away any awkward facts that happen to contradict those theories.</p>
<p>And so each fact is shadowed by an &#8220;anti-fact&#8221; explaining it away: sometimes it seems that each fact gets beaten up until it produces the opposite reading.</p>
<p>In fact, I would point out that this is probably why even the most basic dating facts about the VMs (<i>such as its mostly-15th century quire numbers</i>) have ended up being sidelined, marginalised by a strangely reactionary body of experts.</p>
<p>So, are the <b>facts</b> to blame for stagnation in VMs research? Or might the experts perhaps have something to do with it?</p>
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		<title>By: KenW</title>
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		<dc:creator>KenW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Facts are essential.  Yet until we have enough of them to build a more reliable foundation, casting the widest net may be our best bet to spark a line of inquiry which could lead to an as yet unknown nugget of information. I&#039;m not talking the &quot;knowledge of the Pleidians given to the Nine Unknown Men, etc.&quot; sort. As you describe ;-) there are enough VMS experts to separate the wheat from the chaff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Facts are essential.  Yet until we have enough of them to build a more reliable foundation, casting the widest net may be our best bet to spark a line of inquiry which could lead to an as yet unknown nugget of information. I&#8217;m not talking the &#8220;knowledge of the Pleidians given to the Nine Unknown Men, etc.&#8221; sort. As you describe <img src='http://www.ciphermysteries.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  there are enough VMS experts to separate the wheat from the chaff.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Pelling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Pelling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps people could try to work together to find more facts?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would say that throwing yet more empty theories onto the fire is a strategy that has yet to provide any heat...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps people could try to work together to find more facts?</p>
<p>I would say that throwing yet more empty theories onto the fire is a strategy that has yet to provide any heat&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: KenW</title>
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		<dc:creator>KenW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on Nick! But isn&#039;t that the entire dilemma with any theory based on such a small set of facts?  What else do we have but to throw out all our theories (from insanely self-involved to hard-researched and inflexible) and see which idea sparks the next? That&#039;s all we have until we find the original Latin introduction or ISBN number. Yes, I&#039;m a VMS (or VMs?) expert and I love the goofy plethora of theories our little obsession has spawned. There is something refreshingly egalitarian about the ease at which we dub ourselves experts. Want to develop a graduate course in VMS studies? First to step up wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on Nick! But isn&#8217;t that the entire dilemma with any theory based on such a small set of facts?  What else do we have but to throw out all our theories (from insanely self-involved to hard-researched and inflexible) and see which idea sparks the next? That&#8217;s all we have until we find the original Latin introduction or ISBN number. Yes, I&#8217;m a VMS (or VMs?) expert and I love the goofy plethora of theories our little obsession has spawned. There is something refreshingly egalitarian about the ease at which we dub ourselves experts. Want to develop a graduate course in VMS studies? First to step up wins.</p>
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